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I've realized (belatedly, no doubt) that this is a transition time for my relationship with House fandom. It'll be interesting to see what comes up next.

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I wrote a sentence last night with 64 words and no commas. Heh.
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Date: 2009-03-01 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nuclearfootball.livejournal.com
You'll still love me right? Image

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibernia1.livejournal.com
Why, though? What did I miss (if I'm not out of line in asking)??

Also - that must be quite an interesting sentence!

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Nothing in particular happened. I was just looking at some old posts, and remembering some old friends who have left the fandom.

The sentence is not actually very interesting... but it's designed not to be interesting! : )

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] remydoodle.livejournal.com
I second [livejournal.com profile] hibernia1's question. What brought this on? Have you had problems with the house fandom? I'll kick some virtual butt on your behalf if you need me too!!

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
No, no problems. Just me being old-lady cranky nostalgic. : )

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:41 pm (UTC)
ext_25649: House sucking a lollipop while staring at Wilson (hw_shoulderhand)
From: [identity profile] daisylily.livejournal.com
You OK?

*worries*

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Don't worry! : ) I've just been thinking about some fun comms that have dried up, and some fandom friends who have moved on. Nothing new -- I'm just slow to catch on to thing slike this, sometimes. *hugs*

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Date: 2009-03-01 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com
*pet pet*

House and Wilson are my favourite OTP ever! But I too have jumped fandoms (the Bat-verse suits my penchant for incredible angst, hot guys, male bonding, and strong female characters too).

But I will always read whatever you write :D
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Date: 2009-03-01 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonne17.livejournal.com
As long as you don't leave this fandom (don't, OK!), it's fine to feel a little nostalgia sometimes.

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Date: 2009-03-01 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I'm not planning to leave. Just... thinking about stuff. : )

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Date: 2009-03-01 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com
Life = transition time for everything.

*hugs*

I deeply hope you will not leave, though. The place would never be the same without you.

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Date: 2009-03-01 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Not planning to leave! It's just finally hit how different thing are from when I joined the fandom in '06. (I'm slow, I know.)

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Date: 2009-03-01 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
Sometimes I feel that way too.

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Date: 2009-03-01 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I'm not generally good with transition times, but the fact that I've (finally!) identified it is helpful.

*hugs*
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Date: 2009-03-01 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
It's not a bad thing, necessarily. Just different.

*hugs*

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Date: 2009-03-01 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com
I had a similar feeling about my church. I'd gone there since I was 18 and then after I was married and had kids. About 5 years ago, a lot of the families that I'd known for years, started leaving the state, in search of cheaper housing. So many people had left that the church had to shut down, due to lack of funds.

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Date: 2009-03-01 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
That's a huge shame about your church. What a big loss. I hope you've found another congregation to be a part of.

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Date: 2009-03-01 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hannahrorlove.livejournal.com
Sounds like one doozy of a sentence.

The transition feeling's a strange one, and it's never easy to figure out until you're into it. But it can be good, sometimes, to get a new perspective.

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Date: 2009-03-01 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
It is a doozy. Hee.

Transition time isn't fun for me, generally. But I'm optimistic the end state won't be all bad. : )

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Date: 2009-03-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com
I've never been as thoroughly immersed in the fandom as you are, I know. So the changes aren't affecting me as much, but I still sense them. People who were writing a lot aren't now, and a lot of the newcomers are ... *ahem*. I'll be nice, but the demographics do seem to have shifted.

I'm hoping that something will happen to revitalize things, but in the event that these changes are permanent, I'm still not ready to let go. There will always be a few of us.

And when it eventually does fade away or transition elsewhere, I hope that those of us who are close friends will find a way of remaining so. There are a handful of people (you're one) I can't imagine losing just because a TV show ends its run.

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Date: 2009-03-01 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
There will always be some of us for House fandom! And even if some day you and I aren't interested in House any more, we'll still be friends, because our relationship goes beyond that. *hugs*

(Besides, she says with tongue in cheek, I doubt the Distress Call 'verse will ever be done. *g*)

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Date: 2009-03-01 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] savemoony.livejournal.com
You need to tell me where you go, so I can follow you.

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Date: 2009-03-01 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Ain't going nowhere, baby!

*hugs*

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Date: 2009-03-01 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zulu.livejournal.com
Ah, fandom migration! Hard to believe House has been my longest fandom yet, but I've been through several transitions. (*is an oldbie*: WHY I STILL REMEMBER THE DAYS OF THE X-FILES. Nobody teal deered like an X-Phile! And you think you know ship wars? I was in Buffy fandom and we had ship wars!) House is still my thing--and getting better all the time (the secret is to change who you like depending on who the writers like)--but I know there'll come a day when I'm ready for something new. And that day I shall keep all my friend-friends (still have some from Buffy on my flist), and my fandom-friends shall say, "You're leaving? CRAZY PERSON." And we shall drift. For lo, that is the Way of Fandom.

*gurus from mountaintop*

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Date: 2009-03-02 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
You are very much the guru. I don't know what this transition is exactly -- I doubt I'll be leaving House fandom any time soon -- but it's good to hear from someone who's lived through others.

Kudos on Big Bang, by the way! Looks like it's coming along great!

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Date: 2009-03-01 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silsbee329.livejournal.com
What Queenzulu said. Your friends will stick with you.

And, like you, I sometimes miss the way things were when you and I first started. I think getting involved in lots of fandoms helped me not to feel as sad about it. Still kinda sad, tho'...

I remember having house_wilson on my flist and just gobbling up everything that popped up there. And constantly having H/W in my head. Those were good times. ;)

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Date: 2009-03-02 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
The summer of '06 was kind of golden for H/W, I think. There'd been the Odd Couple arc, and there was so much potential for what could happen post-ketamine. People were willing to explore angst, but there was that underlying "made for each other" feeling about them.

I'm still bopping along, and still enjoying friends who aren't active in House any more; guess this was just a nostalgia day for me.

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Date: 2009-03-01 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topaz-eyes.livejournal.com
Watching old fandom friends move on is always a bit painful. Problem being, fandom's always in flux. I feel like I have no connection with the newest wave of House fen. So many of my f-list have soldiered on through at least one other fandom, my own fandom interests are drifting away, yet I don't want to let go just yet. Such is the downside of fandom evolution. :-(

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Date: 2009-03-02 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
"Nothing gold can stay" -- isn't that the quote? More things will come that are interesting, though.

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Date: 2009-03-01 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warmdarkwoman.livejournal.com
Me too, Dee, me too.

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Date: 2009-03-02 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
*sigh* It doesn't mean having to give up the awesome people I've met, though. Which is more than enough to make me smile.

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Date: 2009-03-01 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namasteyoga.livejournal.com
I often find that the show is more a more enjoyable experience when you ignore the fandom. So I pick and choose which areas of fandom I want to deal with, and sometimes even ignore those on occasion. And there are some people I ignore completely. I don't enjoy banging my head against the wall.

I still enjoy writing, but some of the comms have gotten downright nasty in terms of their 'ships, so I don't even bother with those anymore.

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Date: 2009-03-02 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shutterbug-12.livejournal.com
I often find that the show is more a more enjoyable experience when you ignore the fandom. I had to learn this the hard way. I've been affected so much by fandom this season in a very negative way (and, of course, it's my own fault for not backing away when I should have, but it doesn't change that it happened now, I guess). I enjoyed this season far less than I might have if it wasn't for being exposed to extreme shipper views and attitudes. It made me more frustrated than anything else, and even though the negative and bitter feelings I acquired during that time are sticking around and are still affecting how I view the show, they're less. Hopefully, with even more time away from the 'ship' comms, it will disappear and I'll be able to watch the show with the enjoyment I did before I got so immersed in fandom. I find it's already better just sticking to the fringes of fandom. Read the much more 'neutral' comms, discuss with my f-list and people I trust and respect (and who I know will respect me), write what I enjoy and what I find meaning in, read fics from authors I've come to like and trust. It really is not fun jumping into fandom for the sake of being part of it, only to find yourself frustrated and, as you said, banging your head against a wall.

I totally agree with you here.

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Date: 2009-03-01 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alsaurusrex.livejournal.com
I'm pretty much a lurker but I can relate in the sense that I've been around House fandom for years, and I miss the way my comms USED to be. I miss the old house_wilson, the earlier days of house_mst... I even miss the old capslock_house.

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Date: 2009-03-02 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
That's about where I am, too. I also miss TWOP a little. I like HHOW now, but some of the discussions we had on TWOP before that turned into The Way Of Phail were very, very awesome. Ah well.

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Date: 2009-03-01 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spoopy.livejournal.com
I feel very little sense of 'community' within the House fandom these days. I haven't done since mid-season three. I miss that, a lot.

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Date: 2009-03-02 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
It's a different thing today, and so many people have moved on. But I'm happy to have the friends I still do!

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Date: 2009-03-01 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com
*worry?* *hughug*

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Date: 2009-03-02 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
No worries! Just reflection. : ) *hugs*

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Date: 2009-03-01 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwshipper.livejournal.com
*instinctive reaction* Don't go, Dee!

I haven't been around in this fandom as long as you have... but I'm not inspired to write much H/W at the moment while the Huddy buildup grinds relentlessly on. Don't know if that's how you feel too, but I think I'm just waiting for that to just happen & be over.

*dives back into Chris/Edward*

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Date: 2009-03-02 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Not going anywhere! Just re-figuring out what my place is.

The strangest thing about the Huddy buildup is that I think the producers/TPTB have made more hype about it being one long arc than the show has shown. After the ep where House gave Cuddy the desk and then was hanging with the prostitute (episode 10!), I really felt the chemistry between them go back to boss/employee + sorta-friends.

More Chris/Edward is always a good idea!

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Date: 2009-03-02 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shutterbug-12.livejournal.com
Even in my experience so far (and I've only been in fandom for about a year and a half) I've noticed a sort of climate change. I feel like some of the 'ship' comms have gotten slightly...insane, and I can't even go to those places anymore without wanting to rip my hair out. It seems like there's less maturity going around in general (even in the general media when it comes to House, reporting on nothing except who's sleeping with who, who's about to sleep with who, who should sleep with who, when who's going to sleep with who, etc., but this might always been the hot topics for that kind of thing, since I don't know, because I didn't really keep up with that until this past season, or notice it). I just feel such a sense of division and immaturity in fandom lately, and I've really kept to the fringes. I haven't really had to deal with older fandom people moving on, because I really haven't been involved for that long. I bet it's weird to realize others have moved on.

I don't know if your enormous neverending sentence meant that you're having trouble writing, but...I know I am. When I feel discouraged with the show itself I find it harder to write, even if what I'm writing really has nothing to do with what's happening on the show. That must have been one hell of a sentence, though.

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Date: 2009-03-07 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
general media when it comes to House, reporting on nothing except who's sleeping with who -- Ausiello getting the larger platform of Entertainment Weekly had something to do with this, I think. He has been obsessed with House having sex since moment one and asks about it at every opportunity. *rolls eyes*

I've never been on any shipping comms other than House_Wilson, and the change there is what has unsettled me the most. There have always been different perspectives on Wilson and House, but now it seems like a large contingent actually hate one of the people involved in the 'ship. How is that shipping?

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Date: 2009-03-02 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
I hope this is a 'good' thing for you and not a sad one. To be really caught up in a fandom is great, but I still enjoy hanging around lj for the people, and I hope you'll still be around and such, even if you're not quite sure where you are yet :)

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Date: 2009-03-07 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I'll be hanging around LJ for a long time -- can't get rid of me that easily! The transition is more of a wistful thing than sad, but I'll get over it anyway.

*hugs*

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Date: 2009-03-05 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poeia.livejournal.com
This is the first fandom I've ever been part of. I think a certain amount of ebb and flow among the members is a natural thing. Some people get off the merry-go-round and others jump on. Even in the year and a half of HHoW I can look through the members list and see people I miss who have left. But there are also new people who have joined who I really like.

As long as I watch the show, I'll stay. And as long as Hugh Laurie is on it, I'll watch. But I've always limited myself to the show, fanfics (by select writers) and one site for talking about it. I hear about the extremists in various ships second-hand only. And I plan to keep it that way.

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Date: 2009-03-07 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Ebb and flow is natural, of course. Just takes me longer than some (most?) to catch on/catch up. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season -- woot! ♥
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