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Who wrote this episode? Whoever it was, I have two a coupla comments for ya:

1) Please to be following Doris Egan's lead in at least trying to keep the timeline consistent. Please. "Twelve years ago" does not equal "it's been almost a decade," and neither of those equal 1991! The sound you hear is my hair being torn out. And WTF bringing Cuddy into the mix of having known Wilson as long as House has? Enough that she would "know what he was like back when Sam broke his heart"?

Not even mentioning the fact that canon established that Wilson didn't cheat on Julie but did cheat on wives, plural, before her -- which means he had to have cheated on Sam.

2) The writer of this episode decided to give up on the whole "subtext" thing, huh, and just go straight to the frying-pan-over-the-head school of parallels. POTW won't tell his close friend who cares so much for him about being in love with her, because he thinks she'll be better off with someone who has more to offer. In the same episode where House is being all protective of Wilson's heart. SUBTLE. VERY SUBTLE.

3) God damn, Olivia Wilde's pretty.

4) I guess Lucas and House aren't holding any grudges about the prank war/condo stealing thing. Good that all it took was a knock to House's head and Wilson shelling out thousands of dollars for repairs and a new TV.

I did like this episode. Liked everyone's acting, liked the lighting, liked that RSL managed to tame his 'ew touching' and make Wilson seem reasonably physically comfortable with Sam (although he still won't kiss full on the lips), liked Cuddy trying to stay out of it. It seemed like she was the only one who remembered what had happened in the early stages with Amber -- and she was trying to keep out and not make another "string you up and deposit her eggs in you" comment. Thumbs up, Cuddy! (And you looked gorgeous in this ep, too, Lisa E. Love your hair. Yes, you too, Jesse Spencer; I haven't forgotten how cute you were either.)

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Date: 2010-04-20 02:55 am (UTC)
ext_25882: (Open Book)
From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
You know, I believe Yaitanes mentioned that an episode was being written by someone who wasn't a regular -- not one of the regular crew.

Maybe this was that episode.

ETA that IMDB says the writer of "Knight Fall" was John C. Kelley, who has written for NCIS in the past.
Edited Date: 2010-04-20 02:58 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-04-20 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topaz-eyes.livejournal.com
Even if that were the case, Shore should've still caught the timeline inconsistencies. Being head writer and all...

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Date: 2010-04-20 03:13 am (UTC)
ext_25882: (Mechanical Bird)
From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
Heh. I agree. Maybe he's been spending a little too much time on his remake of The Rockford Files.

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Don't they have a script supervisor? I can understand missing things from prior seasons, but the previous episode? AND WITHIN THE SAME EPISODE?

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Date: 2010-04-20 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topaz-eyes.livejournal.com
Was the writer a regular staff member? If so, bad puppy! No biscuit!

I would have liked the ep if the timelines were consistent. My mind can't bend that far. Oh House PTB, why must you keep disappointing me these days? :-(

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Exactly, House-in-your-icon. Um... no. I liked the ep, but the timeline and characterization broke my brain (House selflessly thinks of Wilson's feelings, without any hint at all that House's motives include any kind of selfishness? Wilson is not suspicious one iota of House's motives? House has the same exact conversation with Cuddy that he had when Wilson started dating Amber, without either of them acknowledging they had the same exact conversation?)
Edited Date: 2010-04-20 05:36 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-04-20 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vitawash24.livejournal.com
Hee. The funny thing is that I thought the knight thing was subtle since, you know, no one actually mentioned Lancelot by name. My standards are apparently kind of low.

I also thought Cuddy was trying to hang back and not say anything about Wilson dating Sam.

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
She was trying so hard to hang back! I was proud of her. And she made Wilson smile that cute little smile in the cafeteria... awww.

How do you feel about the Chase/Cameron subplot in last week's episode? I've heard a few opinions and would love to hear yours (if you have one).

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Date: 2010-04-21 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vitawash24.livejournal.com
I thought the Chase/Cameron subplot was beautifully acted last week - oddly enough, they seemed more intimate and genuinely couple-like than they have for most of the time they've spent together. Now while I do think that both of them contributed to the marriage ending, I did feel like there's this weird minimization of what Chase did - which was HUGE - versus Cameron's decision to leave. I don't know if they're just trying to make the situation more complex, but it comes off as odd to me.

The scenes did show, IMO, that they really did love each other. They just didn't seem to have anything left at that point,except what they started with. (I am a little curious about why their last scene was cut, but I assume it just didn't add anything.)

I don't want to say I'm unobservant, but man, I totally didn't catch the timeline fail. Which is sad, because I knew Hector was a seriously old dog. :)

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Date: 2010-04-20 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com
I admired Cuddy for staying out of it.

As for the obvious parallel, just call me Captain Oblivious because I don't see it, really. Neither House nor Wilson is anything like Sir William, far as I can tell. But I really do enjoy these moments where we see that Wilson's well-being really does matter -- deeply -- to House.

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
The parallel being this:

POTWHouse won't tell his close friend who cares so much for him about being in love with herhim, because he thinks she'llWilson will be better off with someone who has more to offer.

Also because POTW/House is chickenshit scared, and it's easier to be alone than to risk your heart.

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Do I think TPTB will really go there? No, I don't, for a variety of reasons. But it was amusing to see a new writer wade into the fray.

Different subject: I wonder what House thought Cuddy could do to break Wilson and Sam up. "I need you to break them up," he said to Cuddy. When it was Amber, House ordered Cuddy to sleep with Wilson, but this time he left it unspecified. What did he think Cuddy could do?

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Date: 2010-04-20 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taiga13.livejournal.com
1) That drove me crazy too. The only explanation is that RSL said the wrong thing while filming 'Lockdown', but how do you say '1990 to 1991' instead of '1997 to 1998'? Plus it makes much more sense for Wilson to have divorced Sam / met House / graduated medical school 19 years ago instead of 12. Grr!
It's still possible Wilson cheated on Sam. They both made mistakes. They could have cheated on each other. Plus, that line about Wilson cheated on multiple lines was back in season 2 and they can't remember canon from one episode ago!
2) Not subtle, and yet I like the idea of House as Wilson's knight - just as Wilson has been his.
3) No argument here.
4) House never showed any evidence of having a grudge against Lucas. He respects being pwned, we've seen it before. It's one of those things where fans are angry and therefore assume the character should be angry too (shrug).
I liked how the actress who played Sam was acting with RSL, and yes he did seem more physically comfortable than he usually is in such scenes.
I also like that Cuddy wants to stay out of it but was initially confused by LE's portrayal. To me Cuddy came off as angry at Wilson.

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Date: 2010-04-20 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mer-duff.livejournal.com
I can almost understand a one-shot writer messing up the timeline (though they should have caught that in the first table read), but the inconsistencies within the episode was insane. Not just 12 years versus nearly a decade, but the two observations about them marrying young. Even if Wilson is RSL's age, and not 3-4 years older as last episode suggests, marrying at 28-29, is not young, even at a time when people are marrying later in life!

And House is just realizing that Wilson can keep a secret from him? Hello, "House vs. God?" And he was dating Amber for four weeks before House found out. Was anybody paying attention at the table read?

I get the feeling that now they've got Taub on the show to fly the adultery banner, they're retconning Wilson's past. Though it is possible that he cheated on Julie earlier in their marriage, and therefore was technically telling the truth about not cheating on her at the time the marriage broke up (which is actually what I've always thought was the case).

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Date: 2010-04-20 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taiga13.livejournal.com
And House is just realizing that Wilson can keep a secret from him?

I fanwanked that as House meaning that he can't believe that Wilson could keep a secret from him NOW, with House paying closer attention and the two of them living together. For example he found out about Danny showing back up (I wish they'd give us an update on him), Wilson talking to Amber at night, etc. Ug, the inconsistencies are giving me a headache.

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Ooh, good fanwank! I think the writer was just being dumb, but I can live with your fanwank.

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Date: 2010-04-21 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taiga13.livejournal.com
Well, it's either fanwank or accept that they hired a writer who doesn't understand the characters at all :(

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Date: 2010-04-20 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
House is just realizing that Wilson can keep a secret from him?

The long-lost brother that Wilson hid for years? Hello?

I really thought that Wilson's ability to keep a secret from House was one of the things House liked about Wilson. Made him "not boring."

And what was that about Cuddy being able to remember what Wilson was like right after Wilson's divorce from Sam? Zuh? Did Wilson and Cuddy work together? ???

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Date: 2010-04-20 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genagirl.livejournal.com
I am just ignoring this weirdness - unless he married Sam, divorced her, married Bonnie, divorced her and married Sam again before divorcing her again and marrying Julie. No, I am ignoring all this time line and just going with the fact that House really loves Wilson and needs to stop being stupid and just come out an TELL HIM!! Then his leg will stop hurting and Wilson will stop dating inappropriate women and all will be right in the Houseverse.

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Date: 2010-04-20 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
House really loves Wilson and needs to stop being stupid and just come out an TELL HIM!!

Not only loves him, but is in love with him, if we're going with the POTW parallel.
Edited Date: 2010-04-20 11:19 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-04-20 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namasteyoga.livejournal.com
According to the writer interview in the iPhone app, it was a freelancer. (I think the WGA requires shows to hire a set number of freelancers per year to ensure that they're given hiring opportunities.)

Don't know why it wasn't fixed in the process somewhere else, but if the guy used to write for NCIS, maybe this is the best they could get out of him on various rewrites? (Please, note, I'm not a fan of NCIS' writing. It's very stale to me.)

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Date: 2010-04-20 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
The freelancer explains why Wilson was the nicest guy ever and House was blatantly being selfless (instead of a mixture of selfish and selfless as is his general behavior). And why "I liked him better on Vicodin" came up almost a year after House gave up the drug.

But why didn't anyone pick up the timeline differences? I get that RSL isn't likely to care, but you'd think someone else would've noticed. Sigh.

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Date: 2010-04-20 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibernia1.livejournal.com
I have a feeling I won't watch anything of Season 6.

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Date: 2010-04-21 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
This is a lovely episode other than the weird inconsistencies. House is nekkid at the beginning; House swings a sword around (really); lots of House loving and protecting Wilson; Wilson looking cute and trusting House and looking cute.
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Date: 2010-04-21 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Wearing nothing but a wristwatch! Are you a member of [livejournal.com profile] hughbunnies? They have the screencaps.
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Date: 2010-04-21 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Maybe he's losing his hair from more than just his head?

Hughbunnies would love to distribute Hugh free for all, but the mods decided they wanted a bullshit-free zone for the enjoyment of Hugh, so they're on moderated membership to keep the jerkfaces out. I think you'd enjoy their posts, if you wanna join. Not a lot of analysis, but many, many awesome pictures and vids, all in one location for your Hugh-viewing enjoyment.

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Date: 2010-04-21 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibernia1.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't doubt that for a second - it's just that the whole feeling I get from the spoilers and stuff ever since the beginning of Season 6 is totally wrong.

Don't mind me. I'm weird.

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Date: 2010-04-20 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] felis-nocturna.livejournal.com
re #1: Only a tiny consolation, but I think I at least solved the "almost a decade" vs. "12 years" problem. Wilson was referring to the beginning and Sam to the end of their relationship. Just sayin. Of course they still forgot 10 years, though - which is rather ridiculous really. (I'm interested to see if anybody is going to comment on that, like Doris Egan did after Known Unknowns.)

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Date: 2010-04-21 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Alright, the beginning vs. end makes sense -- although neither figure fits with the divorce being in 1991. Grr.

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Date: 2010-04-23 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixquic.livejournal.com
But the divorce did not have to be in 1991. Let's fanwank, after all is Friday!

1. 1990/1991 Sam and Wilson are both young and married.
2. Wilson cheats
3. They separate
4. Wilson apologizes, makes ammends, Sam accepts his offerings.
5. Wilson starts to believe that the marriage can be saved, prepares for a life after Med-School that includes Sam.
6. Wilson gets blindsided with the divorce papers. Let's not forget that up to the last minute with Julie, Wilson was convinced that marriage could survive.
7. Wilson meets House
8. Wilson sees Danny in Princeton
9. Wilson accepts a job in PPTH and meets Cuddy.
10. Wilson settles in Princeton still reeling from the divorce. This is a guy that does not "deal" with loss, he gets stuck for years. So following his pattern (after Julie 2 and half year in a hotel, after Amber 2 years in her apartment, both times it took a couple of years before he started a serious relationship again). Cuddy could have met him a couple of years after the divorce and still see the consequences.


I could totally see House not being very forgiving of Sam, if he thinks she toyed with Wilson's feelings. And it was early on on the H-W relationship for him not to have understood yet Wilson's issues with loss, blaming Sam even more, as Wilson took so long to get over it.

Actually, this might even explain Bonnie. Wilson finally decides he is ready to go out into the world, and picks Bonnie because she is safe, and she knows all that Wilson wants/needs is a friend. But Bonnie jumps him.

Of course, this does not explain the iffy dialogue, if hwshipper could do a timeline for her fic-universe, why can't the House writers? It's very frustating.

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Date: 2010-04-21 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwshipper.livejournal.com
I have just seen the ep and come rushing straight out to see if anyone could make sense of the timeline fail. I was there spluttering and tearing my hair out with you. Gah!

And I was so pleased after last week's ep, the 1990/1 thing! - it finally seemed to make sense, everything almost falling into place. And now?... *despair!*

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