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However, if it comes down to misguided fans vs. Wilson, then:





With thanks to [livejournal.com profile] jane_hidell

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Date: 2008-09-04 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
He is not perfect or by any means above reproach in all his actions. But it's with him that my loyalties lie!

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Date: 2008-09-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangomango.livejournal.com
*agrees with this*

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Date: 2008-09-05 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namasteyoga.livejournal.com
IAWTC. I tell you, I'm about to give up on some parts of fandom who vilify Wilson for the sin of being "selfish" for daring to try and save the life of someone he loves.

(I assume that these are the same people who, after watching/reading "Sophie's Choice" would say: "That Sophie. What a bitch!")
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Date: 2008-09-05 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Fans sometimes seem to think that because Wilson has done so much of the relationship work with House in the past, Wilson should continue doing so, give more, and not expect any return at all. What?

He's not a perfect person. As he admitted, he's dealt out crap to House at times. He knows he's been an enabler. But he deserves something for himself too.

Fans also sometimes seem to forget that we see House brooding, hurting, regretting his actions, but Wilson doesn't necessarily see that very often. He doesn't often see that vulnerability, which balances out the harsh things House can do.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poeia.livejournal.com
I will usually be on House's side. But most of the time I can sympathize with why Wilson does what he does (except in "Meaning.")

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Date: 2008-09-05 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I think most of the time, whether they know it or not, House and Wilson are on the same side (although they may be rancorously or snippily arguing there), so that works out fine. : )

"Meaning" and the whole "teaching House humility" plot... yeah, that was not Wilson's finest hour by any stretch of the imagination. I do think he was doing it for House's benefit, not his own, but it was so disastrously misguided. If I could have any plotline stricken from the canon, it'd be that one. They could've justified House stealing the prescription pad solely on Wilson not believing the pain was back to the degree House said it was, and in fact, House didn't even know about the deception when he stole the first prescription.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] savemoony.livejournal.com
HOUSE IS A JACKASS. I CONCUR.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I love it that House is a jackass, and I acknowledge that sometimes House is more right than Wilson is. Wilson is not perfect; he does dickish things from time to time.

Nonetheless, when it comes to fandom vs. Wilson, I am backing Wilson 100%. He is a complicated, flawed human being, but anyone who wants to twist that into him being evil (or House being perfect) best step off.

THUS SAYETH I.

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Date: 2008-09-06 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com
I LOVE MY WILSON. I also love House, and I have so much sympathy for both of them right now.

The only reason I'm aware of how many people are vilifying Wilson right now is because I've heard about it secondhand. I'm staying out of the fandom maelstrom.

Grief isn't rational. It's angry, it's messy, and it doesn't go away in a week. Fans who can't understand that are fans who've never been through it or witnessed it in real life.

I hate it that Wilson's blaming House for what happened. It wasn't House's fault, IMO, no matter the chain of coincidence, and he doesn't deserve what's being dished out. That does not, however, make Wilson a bastard. It makes a human being in the blindness of grief. I want to hug him.

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Date: 2008-09-06 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I hate it that Wilson's blaming House for what happened.

I don't know if that's actually canon at this point (based on Season Four plus promos for Season Five). RSL has said "[House] killed [Wilson's] girlfriend, for Pete's sake," but to me that came across sarcastically. We'll have to see how things play out in Episode 1 to see if Wilson really is blaming House for Amber's death.

...he doesn't deserve what's being dished out.

Have you read the detailed Ep 1 and Ep 2 recaps that were posted on house_wilson? Unless there's something in there (I haven't read them and don't want to), I don't know what's being dished out to House now. ?? We'll see when the episodes air.

You're absolutely right about grief not being rational, being complex and messy. It'll be interesting to see the impact(s) it's had on Wilson, and to what extent it's touched House.

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Date: 2008-09-07 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
Posts like this make me worry about what's going on in the comms. What has Wilson done NOW?

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Date: 2008-09-07 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
HE DIDN'T STAY IN THE ICU AND HOLD HOUSE'S HAND AT THE END OF "WILSON'S HEART"! HE'S SO AWFUL!!!!

Ixtab from HHOW put it very, very well:

"It seems that some fans/writers truly believe that Wilson is a sociopath/psychopath plus the world's worst friend/doctor/human being to the point where some of the warnings say: "Just Wilson being Wilson" "Don't read if you can't accept the truth" "Not for people who think Wilson is perfect", etc, to me this has moved to insulting other fans.

The other thing that bothers me is what this type of fic does to House, not only is he DelicateFragileLittleFlowerHouse but also VictimizedAlwaysAbusedHouse in at least two occasions I thought House was so pathetic that Wilson should not bother really.

And one last thing, the idea that once BadFriendWilson is out of the way, everybody and their dogs will run to become House's BFF. All they need to do is tell House "You are perfect just the way you are" and "Wilson never understood what a fragile delicate unique flower you are but I do, and we are going to be happy for ever" and just like that Chase, Cuddy, Cameron, Foreman, Tabb, 13, Kutner, Brenda, Marco, OMCDoctor, OFCNurse, become House best friends, and House learns that he was always the BestFriendEver and Wilson just couldn't appreciate [him]. Rinse and repeat and that's the plot of most of these fics.End Rant."

That's a bit of an exaggeration but sadly not very much.

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Date: 2008-09-07 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdr1184.livejournal.com
I have a hard time reading dark!Wilson fics, because I can't be upset with the man for more than thirty seconds. I'm a little worried the Wilson haters are going to circle when the season begin, because he dares to be upset that Amber's dead. Ultimately, I think Wilson will start blaming himself. The idea that Amber would be alive if she hadn't loved him. She helped House because House is important to Wilson. She showed she was the better person and was willing to have House be part of their lives. I am so going to miss her, but if House isn't allowed to be happy than Wilson can't be either. She would have made him happy. I'm not sure I've seen that idea of Wilson blaming himself played around with any fic, but it would be interesting to read.

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Date: 2008-09-14 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
Ooooh, that WOULD be interesting!!!

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Date: 2008-09-08 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turkfox.livejournal.com
Y'know, I had only seen one ep of House before this time last week *is mid-season 3 on a big week-long marathon*
And all I can think about is Wilson.

Even if I don't think about House in-depth, he's still not my favourite because I prefer Hugh Laurie as the foolish-posh-Englishman characters. So I think I already had that in my mind when I started watching it. Then I read some fics and it's like... poor misunderstood little House and evil Wilson? WTF?

I mean, I know this is a really crap comparison... but it's like saying "poor, misunderstood Voldemort and evil Harry Potter!" or something like that.

*sigh*

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Date: 2008-09-17 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
The relationship between House and Wilson is complex. Wilson's done some disastrous things to House, and House has done some awful things to Wilson. But they are both decent people underneath, in my opinion, and demonizing either of them, while fun for a short bit, takes away from their complexity in a sad way.

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Date: 2008-09-12 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viquetoriana.livejournal.com
...I think I love you. Okay, so I'm kind of randomly turning up here, but I'm going on a memming spree and finding all my favourite authors. And this was the first thing I saw when I found you. So... Yeah. Much love here. I think I'll icon that pic, there (too bad I've maxed out my icon quota XD). And I'm saving that rant from...HHOW? that you posted up there. I love finding things like this, just when I think all of Wilson's fans have disappeared. Phew! I wish I could bow out of mainstream fandom (have wished that all summer, in fact), but...I just can't. It's like watching a train wreck. It's horrible, but I just can't tear my eyes away. O.o

We all know Wilson's not perfect; no one is. But the only mistake he's made, as far as I can remember, that wasn't an honest mistake or a good-intentioned decision made in desperation that backfired on him--at worst--was that whole deal with the brain-damaged patient. And even that was A, done with partially good intentions; and B, a really endearing, IMO, show of weakness: jealousy. You know? I'm not thinking that really bad, selfish kind of jealousy, but the same kind of jealousy that wound up dissolving into the weary kind of resignation that made him think it'd be better if he went to jail instead of House. The kind you get when a man is brain damaged for ten years because of the disease you specialize in, and there's nothing you can do, even though you've tried everything, and then this other guy comes flying in on an I'm-all-powerful kind of high and finds the cure to it--a simple cortisone shot--in a matter of days. Ouch. XD I'd certainly be tempted to keep the fact that House was right from him, if I was in Wilson's position.

...You know, they're actually kind of Mary-Sue-ing House. Which, even when it's only a little bit, actually makes him less interesting, complex, and sympathetic, IMO. I just don't get it. Because Wilson's grieving, and he might be angry at House, and he took House up on his offer to do the DBS in a last-ditch, hesitant, desperate attempt to save the woman he loved, he's somehow irredeemably horrible and has been all along? And House shows he cares--still more to us in private than to Wilson, who's too upset to really register it anyway--for one or two eps and suddenly every misdeed is erased and he's a great, loving friend? I don't get it! XD

OMG. Sorry this comment's so long. I just tend to gush when I find one of the seemingly few remaining Wilson fans. :P

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Date: 2008-12-22 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Now it's three months later, and I just read your comment again. (Very, very sorry for not responding at the time.)

There's not as much Wilson hate any more, now that he and House have made up, but I still see pockets. There are still some people who think House's life would be better if he kicked Wilson out of it. *eyebrow raise*

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Date: 2008-09-13 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debbiel66.livejournal.com
...lurking here, optimistically on the lookout for stories, but I wanted to say that I agree with you completely.

I'm a new fan (very new) and have had the experience of watching the entire series from season 1-4 over the summer. In addition to being thoroughly addicted (partially thanks to fan fiction like yours), I really, really can't see inherent evilness of any sort in Wilson. Darkness, maybe, but only in the sense that he's actually a complicated character with shadings between black and white. Isn't that the pleasure of an intelligent show, that characters are portrayed and written in a way that we don't know everything there is to know about them?

I like the way the scientist put it in "Frozen." Wilson might not be as nice as most people, besides House, think he is. A far cry from evil, but a lot more interesting, in my humble opinion.


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Date: 2008-10-03 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I'm sorry I didn't write you back earlier. Wilson's complexity is the best thing about him, in my opinion. And, I speculate, the reason that House had wanted to be friends with him in the first plac.e

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Date: 2008-10-03 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruby-took.livejournal.com
I'm a bit late in finding this, but I just wanted to say that I agree with that completely. No, Wilson's not perfect (nor should he have to be - no-one is, after all), but I'm definitely on his side. Always. I love Wilson, and I'm actually quite glad that he's finally taking a stand against how House has always treated him. Okay, they have done some pretty bad things to each other (read, both are guilty), but so far, all the sacrificing has been done by Wilson. It's about time that House had to do something to prove that their friendship means anything to him. I will never understand where the amount of Wilson!hate that is going on at the moment comes from... And where do people get the idea that he's evil? Did everything Wilson did for House in the past suddenly disappear?

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Date: 2008-10-03 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Did everything Wilson did for House in the past suddenly disappear?

This is the question I've been asking. In fact, I got fed up and ranted about it in my LJ. If a fan doesn't like Wilson's traits, fine. Nobody is liked by everyone. But there are those who are saying House is a better friend than Wilson, and that's just completely contradictory to canon.

It'd be like saying "House is wonderful because he's so cheery." He's not cheery! He has many good qualities, but cheeriness is not one of them!

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Date: 2008-12-22 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixquic.livejournal.com
Hola! Just coming very late to say, I ADORE YOUR HEADER!

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Date: 2008-12-22 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Thanks : ) [livejournal.com profile] jane_hidell made it for me, when I was rather fed-up with certains parts of fandom being irrationally angry at Wilson. I'm fine with someone disliking him, as long as it's for his actual faults.

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Date: 2008-12-23 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixquic.livejournal.com
I totally understand your feelings, since I'm given to ranting at HHoW when I feel Wilson is under siege (you quoted one of my rants up-thread).

I am glad that the WilsonHate seems to have lessen lately. The summer taught me to avoid very specific sectors of fandom if I wanted to keep my blood from boiling. Lately, I've heard rumblings again about how Wilson is completely wrong about LLB being homeless and how great it would be if TPTB showed Wilson "true colors" by revealing that he was lying in "Histories", I decided to stay out of that one.

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Date: 2008-12-24 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
You're ixtab? I loved that rant; it was so absolutely perfect. : )

People are saying Wilson lied about his brother being homeless? For what reason? Sheesh.

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Date: 2009-03-08 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I love both of them as well. When I put this up last September, I had come to feel more and more like Wilson was under seige by fandom. Wilson is not perfect by any means, but he's not the evil monster so many were (still are) making him out to be.

House-Wilson is so very, very awesome. : )

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Date: 2009-03-31 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clamore.livejournal.com
Totally off topic, but I don't know where else to ask, haha... Is bobbysean69 on twitter the real deal? If not, how did he get Laurie to have that HOT, HOT correspondence with him?

Actually, I guess I'm uncertain as to whether hughlaurie is legit, too o_o

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Date: 2009-03-31 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Hugh Laurie and RSL are both married, so I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have computer sex where everyone could see it. : ) You can bet that the accounts are real. They sure are fun, though.

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Date: 2009-04-11 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-insane-0ne.livejournal.com
Haha, that header is amazing. Mind if I add you? :)

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Date: 2009-05-03 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Sorry I missed your comment last month! Jane made a great header, didn't she? Happy to have you add me.

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Date: 2009-05-03 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I love Wilson almost as much as House does. : )

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Date: 2009-05-18 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majiex.livejournal.com
I agree! I also, will always be on Wilon's side. I know he does some bad things, but he is trying to help, even though it doesn't really help most of the time, but he's only human. We are allowed to make mistakes. ^_^

Wilson's heart is in the right place. I feel for the man. (Plus, he's so damn attractive, but hey what do I know right?) XD
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Date: 2009-08-22 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
YAY WILSON! ♥ ♥ ♥

(Sorry for not commenting back sooner. I never got a notice of this comment, so I just saw it today.)
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Date: 2009-08-22 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Hi, Verb! I would love to have you friend me. I feel like I should've asked before. : )

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Date: 2009-10-02 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bery26.livejournal.com
LOL I need a header like this for my own journal XD

The House fandom REALLY needs more intelligent people that can analyse the characters in the show in a more unbaised manner.
All this Wilson hate is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The man is human, he makes mistakes, shocker huh? Why can everyone forgive everything of House but no one will let go even one of Wilson's mistakes? It makes me sad :/

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Date: 2009-10-03 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I am really fortunate to know a number of people online who are able to see the characters realistically. My f-list is so very awesome.

But when the irrational Wilson hate began to emerge so strongly in the summer of 2008 throughout other parts of fandom, I became thoroughly fed up, and my friend Jane made me this banner.

I have several friends who prefer House to Wilson, and I have one or two who don't really like Wilson at all. But the thing is, those fans have looked at all Wilson's characteristics clearly and then made their decision.

Anyway, you had asked for some fanfic recommendations. So many good classics to recommend... I think the easiest is if you check out the rec list put together by Topaz Eyes. It's here (http://topaz-eyes.livejournal.com/168191.html). It's a long list, and probably not everything would be to your taste, but Topaz is especially keen on good characterization.
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Date: 2010-01-27 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikkie222.livejournal.com
Hi! I'd love to be friended!

I adore Wilson; he's such a complex person, just as we are all are. No one is black and white. I see him as caring and well-meaning but flawed. Who isn't?

I love your journal and think you're very interesting and level-headed. :)

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