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What was that with the miracle overnight detox? Did it work because House really, really wanted it to this time?

I mean, I know I wrote:

Two hours later, standing in the Diagnostics suite, Wilson was ready to slap a bitch. Or Chase, or Foreman, or anyone really. “Wishing? That’s what makes it happen?”

“It’s not
wishing, exactly,” Chase replied, because Foreman looked unable to come out of his wince. If he wasn’t careful, Wilson thought, his face would stick that way, and then wouldn’t he be sorry.

“We’ve always known,” Chase continued, “that the mind has a powerful effect on the body and specifically healing. It seems, from all the information we have, that the mind is the determining factor here. The intensity of the desire [...] is what affects when the change occurs.”


But that was a crack genderswap-universe solution, not a supposedly real-world solution.

Maybe I missed something in the episode that explained why it worked. Please enlighten me if you saw it.

And now that he's detoxed, House won't cheat and go back on Vicodin... why? He didn't want to go to rehab because he would cheat and render it ineffective. What's to stop him from cheating now?

Other than that, this was an interesting episode. I have to say that I can't figure out where they're headed with this at all.

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Date: 2009-05-05 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakura-dorian.livejournal.com
*headdesk* i KNEW it was a bad idea to read this!! *cries*

lol i missed tonights episode because of my sis and her friend...


my answer to all of that? tv magic *nods*

same thing happened on buffy and stuff, and as my sister says, "whatever Joss"

i think that applies to house sorta lately *shrugs*

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Sorry about that. I did warn for spoilers...

TV Magic is a good explanation. Throughout the series, there have been a lot of times when House!world was not the same as the real world.

The major problem with the overnight detox is that it's inconsistent with what's happened in House!world before. We've seen House detox two times before, and it didn't happen that fast either time. *confused*

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Date: 2009-05-05 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakura-dorian.livejournal.com
i know you warned, i just don't listen ^_~ (same thing happened with the harry potter books, lol)


i think this is a definite case of "whatever house" lol. lets just pretend it all makes sense *nods* 'cause the writers will never explain there logic in this..

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Date: 2009-05-05 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leaper182.livejournal.com
This is the second time I've heard about the miracle detox.

Why the hell did he go through with it in the first place? Are they trying to cancel the show or something, and House becoming a shiny, snuggly, happy person who doesn't need drugs is the way to go?

Squee?

*eyes her House and Wilson plushies curiously*

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
He went through with it because he wanted to stop hallucinating, and detoxing from Vicodin is a quicker fix than resolving mental issues.

Although I didn't think it was supposed to happen that fast.

I'm hoping this will make a lot more sense next episode!

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Date: 2009-05-05 05:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com
Overall, I liked this episode even though there were some gaping holes in it. I can't figure out either where they're headed next week, and I like that.

Agreed

Date: 2009-05-05 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewy-101.livejournal.com
Same here! They definitely have me confused and curious for next week. Always a good think to want more.

.....Even if it's just to fucking explain themselves. = D

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I like not knowing where they're going, although I admit that I was hoping to be more intrigued. Last year, the week between the next-to-last and last episodes was an awesome week. I guess my hopes were too high this year!

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Date: 2009-05-05 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewy-101.livejournal.com
Has to be a coma dream. Has to!

One night of detoxing? No way. And if he was off vicodin by morning, even if the detoxing part was over, how was he not writhing in pain from the you know, DEAD MUSCLE.

He knew that waitress by name and he wasn't even in a strip joint. I know he was feeling good feeling all "cured" but he was NICE.I didn't see if she maybe a nametag which might explain that detail, but even giddy he is not generally so friendly to strangers.

He had a tender completely impossible moment with Cuddy where they exchanged backstory facts that demolished previous backstory facts.

None of this can be real, can it? The show delights me, and has always been a tad loopy in the continuity department, but this much weirdness in one episode? Not since season two finale, I think.

Dunno, I just watched it online, too soon to be thinking aloud, perhaps. But yikes. A lot of WTF went through my head this time and I generally go with the flow and just enjoy the ride for the weirdness it is.

In Detox, I was LOOKING for this sort of physical reaction to be off vicodin. Something that violent and desperate. This time we got it but for only about 8 hours and then he was addiction AND pain free!

Funny that even Wilson bought this vicodin theory instead of it being an emotional problem that has been understandably due since he Got Off The Bus. Quitting Vicodin got rid of Amber? Seriously? I thought he was losing his mind, this cannot be fixed yet.

Um, all this might be too big a pill of nonsense to swallow for me. Of course I'm not going anywhere, and they can still net the shark, but this episode seemed all over the place and the rhythm was out of sync. First time ever that I didn't like an episode. I guess everyone's got one or two or more that didn't add up for them. My turn.

(House off vicodin alone could cause me nightmares. That's not interesting to me for the show in general. Fixing House would be like killing my puppy.)

So,coma dream. Lots of Wilson, ballsy Cuddy, gorgeous creepy delicious Amber, batshit Cameron, clever Foreman- lots to love in there. However, I am praying House wakes up next week and says "Oh thank God" as loudly as I will, because then I can rewatch this one and love how ridiculous it was.

Forgive me for the ramble. I cluttered your journal! WTFuckery can do that to a person I guess.

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
No need to apologize! I enjoy hearing other people's analysis. They've had a lot of WTF moments that did not end up being comas (House being able to run with missing muscle), but the detox here jarred because it's inconsistent not with the real world, but with House!world.

Maybe House will wake up at the end of the season finale, and his wife Jamie will be so happy that he's finally out of the coma. Their kids Remy (who's sullen and mysterious but you know, she's thirteen) and Lawrence have been so worried. Especially poor Lawrence. He's such a happy, fun-loving boy and since his Dad went into a coma, it was like they'd lost him completely. Jamie's sister Lisa's pregnancy is coming along nicely. "We're thinking of naming the baby Rachel," says Lisa's husband Chris. Even House's partner down at the station, Detective Foreman, is there, and tells him that Officers Cameron and Chase will stop by later to say hi. And who's that in the corner? It's Greg's quippy, bitchy half-sister Amber, the one who Jamie can't stand. But Jamie doesn't care, because she's just so happy that Greg is awake again.

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Date: 2009-05-05 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewy-101.livejournal.com
Oh God, lol. I just threw up a little...

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Date: 2009-05-06 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chocolate-frapp.livejournal.com
"Oh, good lord, Jeeves! I just had the most bally awful nightmare!!"

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Date: 2009-05-06 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceruleanshipper.livejournal.com
Mmm, I can see Real!House being decent to waitstaff, if only because a) they bring him tasty food and drink, b) they don't ask him annoying questions, and c) he's read Trainspotting and knows not to piss off people who handle your food.

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Date: 2009-05-05 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com
The only teeny bit of fanwank I can come up with regarding this, which pays no real attention to the realities of medicine, is that House's previous detoxes actually reduced his Vicodin tolerance, so it took smaller doses for him OD and hallucinate but also made his latest detox less severe.

I am aware that makes no sense whatsoever.

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I'm impressed -- that actually might be (in House!land) an explanation. It would've been nice if they'd made it in the show.

My other option is maybe the detox wasn't real. Or the show writers are yet again doing the time warp, but I would be highly disappointed in that.

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Date: 2009-05-05 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photoash.livejournal.com
I wondered the same thing... and I also wondered how he was supposed to be able to 'perform' with cuddy if he's just spent the last night puking his guts out detoxing and hasn't slept well in days? weeks? and had an insulin coma the day before >_> and oh yeah.. he's in pain right?

Are they going to say that the pain is all in his head? I know Cuddy alludes that long term opiate addiction makes the pain seem worse but we've seen time and again that House's pain is real O_o

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
As I told Hib below, if they say the pain is entirely in his head, and mean it, that is really going to be the end. But I don't think that was it.

I am now wondering if the detox was an hallucination.

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Date: 2009-05-05 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photoash.livejournal.com
Hmm... it would be more interesting if it's a hallucination and not a coma dream etc :) that would help set it up so that house goes to a mental institution at least and make more sense with the whole implausibility of this episode's ending O_o

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Date: 2009-05-05 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibernia1.livejournal.com
I haven't seen the ep, but read so much about it already and I SWEAR, if it turns out the pain was never real and all in his head and yadda yadda yadda and he was just an addict and never needed the painkillers in the first place and blah blah blah I AM SO LEAVING THE HOUSE-FANDOM. This would be an insult to all chronic pain patients. GAH.

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
I don't think they will go there! There is a psychological component to his drug use BUT he also has real pain. Wilson would never have prescribed for him for so long if there was no pain at all.

If they ever did say that, I would leave House fandom with you!!! That would be very, very insulting.

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibernia1.livejournal.com
Thanks!! I feel silly getting really upset about this, but I am, I truly am. I hope very much you are right and we can both stay in the Fandom, because it would really make me sad to have to leave, but if they do take that road, I really have no choice, it would indeed be an insult. *hugs* Well, do let me know next week, please??

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Date: 2009-05-05 12:03 pm (UTC)
ext_25649: House sucking a lollipop while staring at Wilson (house_deadpeople)
From: [identity profile] daisylily.livejournal.com
Ah, THAT explains it XD

I have nothing - it all seemed very weird to me, from about the point where Wilson left House's apartment (after the suitcase packing bit).

I wonder whether we're actually in House's head and next week will be the OMG HOUSE HAS GONE COMPLETELY MENTAL AND MUST BE PUT IN A STRAIT-JACKET COMMITTED OR SOMETHING

I was ever so happy when Wilson quoted my icon (for anyone else reading this, I do know that it's a film quote anyway, and that the ep was written before I made my icon, but the writers had Wilson go there, and HOORAY FOR THAT) XD

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
You are so into the straitjacket thing! I think I will have to write you a fic some time. XD XD

I'm glad House finally got a verbal confirmation that he's more than his mental abilities ("You're not just a hospital asset") -- I'm not sure why it had to come from Cuddy instead of Wilson, but oh well. Maybe because he already knows Wilson cares about him as a person, and he wants a second person to care about him?

How funny is it that in this episode Wilson is the mommy (pick House up, provide care, listen to him, etc.) and Cuddy is the daddy (disciplinarian who will keep him from doing what he shouldn't)?

Also funny: Last episode, House said he had an unconscious desire to get Wilson in his bedroom. This episode -- he gets Wilson in his bedroom! I think that may be the first time we've seen Wilson in there. He's been in the bathroom, kitchen, living room, but I don't know if we've seen him in House's bedroom before.

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Date: 2009-05-05 06:27 pm (UTC)
ext_25649: House sucking a lollipop while staring at Wilson (house_deadpeople)
From: [identity profile] daisylily.livejournal.com
AARGH LJ ATE MY COMMENT BECAUSE I HIT BACKSPACE AT THE WRONG MOMENT GRRRRRRRRRRRRR D:<

I would be very very very very happy if you wrote me a strait-jacket-related fic (and it's weird, but the idea of Wilson in one doesn't do anything for me). It doesn't have to be a 'House goes mental enough to be in a strait-jacket' fic, either - it could be House and Wilson playing (although it occurs to me that House might like being restrained like that if he's feeling a bit as if he's falling apart).

The way that Wilson and Cuddy's roles were kind of reversed is another reason to think that the end of the ep (if nothing else) wasn't actually real.

I hadn't thought about Wilson being in House's bedroom (purely in the context of the ep XD ) but you're right, and we haven't seen him there before. Interesting.

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Date: 2009-05-05 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alemyrddin.livejournal.com
Eh. The magic detox bugged me too. Also, it felt quite unfair that after all Wilson did, it was Cuddy that "fixed" him.
I kinda hope it was just a dream.

I liked that Cuddy reassured him about not being just a hospital asset, though - he seemed so surprised, he really needs to hear that more often. And Cuddy was pretty this episode, which makes the ending (a little) better.

I loved all the Wilson scenes (duh!), but especially the fact that we have confirmation not that Wilson cares (that is obvious) but that House knows that Wilson cares.
In Amber's words: "Don't deflect. He cares about you. You care about him."
That made me melt. :)

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Date: 2009-05-06 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
The switch from Wilson to Cuddy was strange. I thought Cuddy seemed genuine in her scenes with House, but the transition to it was so abrupt. And why wasn't Wilson there, too? You know, they could've had both Cuddy and Wilson there, and the next morning Wilson has early rounds or something so they say goodbye to him early. Then House and Cuddy could have had the kissing. Anyway... maybe next week it will become clearer why things happened as they did.

I very much liked that Cuddy reassured House that he was important fo rhimself and not just what he could do. I wish we'd heard the same thing out of Wilson's mouth, but I guess Amber confirming that House knows Wilson cares is the equivalent.

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Date: 2009-05-05 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genagirl.livejournal.com
What I learned from last night's episode:
House (irrational mind) tells Cuddy he needs her while Amber (House's rational mind) tells him he needs Wilson. At least she might have said need or love or trust but I am choosing need. So House is irrationally choosing to have sex with Cuddy when he rationally should be having it with Wilson.

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Date: 2009-05-05 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zulu.livejournal.com
Uh, not to upset your fanwank or anything, but Amber directly stated in the episode that she was House's irrational mind.

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Date: 2009-05-06 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Heh. I thought the "I want to kiss you all the time" line was a strange stretch for the writers. House is very much attracted to Cuddy, but he doesn't seem to moon over her. They have plenty of interactions that are friendly, professional, or even animosity-filled that have nothing to do at all with romance or attraction. So that line out of House's mouth seemed very odd to me.

I would've bought it better if he had then played it off as a joke, "Or is that kill you? I get those two words mixed up," before kissing Cuddy, but the writers didn't choose that way to go.

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Date: 2009-05-05 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taiga13.livejournal.com
Yes, this episode was good because Hugh Laurie is an acting god but there were things that didn't make sense.
But you know what? Now I'm wondering if any of Wilson's ex-wives have some of his sperm on ice - yikes!

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Date: 2009-05-06 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com
Well, Wilson didn't have a terminal disease at any point, so there wouldn't have been a need to freeze his swimmers.

I'm still betting on a college-age one-night stand having produced a Wilson!spawn. *thumbs up*

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Date: 2009-05-08 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostwiginity.livejournal.com
I sometimes watch non-drama shows like Psych or Scrubs and think "Wow, they actually remember that event/person/joke from two seasons ago? Why can't House M.D. be like this!?".

It's like the writers don't remember House tried detoxing before ad it didn't work at all.

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