There was a tweet by Ian Hallard, husband of Mark Gatiss, expressing incredulity about a Sherlock/John romantic relationship happening in canon for Sherlock BBC.
"OK, I get that some people like to fantasise about Sherlock & John as a couple but no one seriously thinks it will actually happen,do they?!" --Ian Hallard
He later apparently expanded on his comment, pointing out that the two characters identify on the show as heterosexual (true) and asexual (not really, Sherlock identified as "married to his work," which could mean asexual or could mean aromantic or could mean not currently pursuing relationships while still having a sexual and/or romantic identity).
Does Ian not watch the show? He's an actor, so I would assume he has some skill at analyzing text, but maybe not.
Here is a huge clue that within this show's canon, the stated sexuality of the characters does not necessarily indicate every kind of attraction they experience: Irene Adler, so singular in ACD canon as to be called "The Woman," falls for BBC Sherlock despite being gay. So if Irene's attraction to women does not preclude her from falling for Sherlock, why is it "fantasy" to assume John's attraction to women doesn't have to preclude him from falling for Sherlock?
And as for Sherlock's sexuality, I will refer you to John's take on it: "Who the hell knows about Sherlock Holmes." (Episode 2-1, "Scandal in Belgravia")
"OK, I get that some people like to fantasise about Sherlock & John as a couple but no one seriously thinks it will actually happen,do they?!" --Ian Hallard
He later apparently expanded on his comment, pointing out that the two characters identify on the show as heterosexual (true) and asexual (not really, Sherlock identified as "married to his work," which could mean asexual or could mean aromantic or could mean not currently pursuing relationships while still having a sexual and/or romantic identity).
Does Ian not watch the show? He's an actor, so I would assume he has some skill at analyzing text, but maybe not.
Here is a huge clue that within this show's canon, the stated sexuality of the characters does not necessarily indicate every kind of attraction they experience: Irene Adler, so singular in ACD canon as to be called "The Woman," falls for BBC Sherlock despite being gay. So if Irene's attraction to women does not preclude her from falling for Sherlock, why is it "fantasy" to assume John's attraction to women doesn't have to preclude him from falling for Sherlock?
And as for Sherlock's sexuality, I will refer you to John's take on it: "Who the hell knows about Sherlock Holmes." (Episode 2-1, "Scandal in Belgravia")
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Date: 2013-04-25 06:08 am (UTC)But... you don't think it will happen on the show, right? That seems to be what the tweet is about-- people thinking not just that it is a plausible interpretation of the characters, but that it WILL happen in canon, which does seem a bit unlikely.
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Date: 2013-04-25 11:35 am (UTC)Many people then take the discussion down the argument of "the studios wouldn't let them do it," which I find too depressing to contemplate.
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Date: 2013-04-25 12:49 pm (UTC)"Will" as in "is a plausible option for these showrunners to take that could be consistent with the canon they've established"? Yes, absolutely yes.
Wow, I'm honestly surprised people could think that.
I mean... if you assigned a team of writers to the next season of "White Collar" and told them to write a season-long arc where Neal, Peter, El and Sara all get together in a polyamorous bisexual foursome, it could be done well and it probably wouldn't even be that difficult to make it consistent and plausible with the canon that is already established. But saying "that's a plausible reading of canon" is completely different from "could plausibly happen on the show in reality," for a dozen different reasons, starting with the fact that the showrunners and actors have *constantly* stated, from the beginning, that this wasn't their intention, and that the canon itself brings it up *to deny it* several times.
And I don't think you have to blame "the studios." I don't think Moffatt or Gatiss *want* to write "the gay Sherlock Holmes." They're fans of the classic, traditional Sherlock Holmes. If they wanted to tell a story about two straight friends who bonded and fell in love, they'd probably be doing it with original characters-- not with Sherlock Holmes. Considering how poorly they did at "updating" the show in terms of race, gender, and disability issues, did anyone really think that they would honestly be groundbreaking in terms of their representation of gay issues?
Again, it's a plausible reading of the characters. But taking a step back from the "in-universe" perspective, where we can analyze at the characters as if they were as complex and realistic as actual real people-- and looking at them as characters on "Sherlock" the television show, It seems profoundly unrealistic to think that they would ever, *canonically*, be explicitly stated to be gay and actually in love with each other.