Honestly, I was trying to kid around because I thought you and I were breaking off into our own argument that had even less to do with Dee's post than the original argument I started (by the way, Dee, I'm sorry about all this; I didn't think it would explode).
I stand by my original points. I stand by my decision to use certain words, and my position that semantics shouldn't be argued about in this kind of situation. I also believe pretty firmly that people should try to avoid being condescending if they want to keep an argument civil and fair, and I saw a full-on fight about to break out between the two of us that would have had nothing to do with the original point and everything to do with us yelling at each other. Nothing I said was going to make me sound non-aggressive in your eyes (because I honestly didn't think I was being aggressive, and thus had no way to change it), and nothing you said was going to sound non-condescending in mine.
You're continuing to try to make me angry, so your accusation of aggression is really a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more you accuse someone of being mad, whether they originally were or not, the madder they're going to become.
Do you really want to continue arguing about whatever it was we were veering into? I can do that. I do have class in a little while, but I'm free besides that. I'm not trying to sound snotty, it just sounds like you had something you wanted to say, and if it's something relevant to the debate, then I welcome it, and I'll accept that I was hasty in judging this discussion as a fight waiting to happen.
If not, what would have been the appropriate response to your statement that I was being aggressive? I saw a fight looming and tried to diffuse it, that was my chosen response. I'm not normally one to back out of an argument, honestly, but I have a track record of days-long internet fights that go nowhere and end with both parties feeling quietly superior over an entirely ambiguous outcome, and I didn't really want this to become one of those situations.
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Date: 2010-01-14 05:56 pm (UTC)I stand by my original points. I stand by my decision to use certain words, and my position that semantics shouldn't be argued about in this kind of situation. I also believe pretty firmly that people should try to avoid being condescending if they want to keep an argument civil and fair, and I saw a full-on fight about to break out between the two of us that would have had nothing to do with the original point and everything to do with us yelling at each other. Nothing I said was going to make me sound non-aggressive in your eyes (because I honestly didn't think I was being aggressive, and thus had no way to change it), and nothing you said was going to sound non-condescending in mine.
You're continuing to try to make me angry, so your accusation of aggression is really a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more you accuse someone of being mad, whether they originally were or not, the madder they're going to become.
Do you really want to continue arguing about whatever it was we were veering into? I can do that. I do have class in a little while, but I'm free besides that. I'm not trying to sound snotty, it just sounds like you had something you wanted to say, and if it's something relevant to the debate, then I welcome it, and I'll accept that I was hasty in judging this discussion as a fight waiting to happen.
If not, what would have been the appropriate response to your statement that I was being aggressive? I saw a fight looming and tried to diffuse it, that was my chosen response. I'm not normally one to back out of an argument, honestly, but I have a track record of days-long internet fights that go nowhere and end with both parties feeling quietly superior over an entirely ambiguous outcome, and I didn't really want this to become one of those situations.