Not Friends

[deelaundry]

From the S5 post-ep I'm not going to write:

"You said we weren't friends."

"You said you were going to trample my feelings, ignore what I want, use my compassion against me, and risk a patient's life in order to get what you want. Does that sound like friendship to you?"

"You asked me to risk my life, and even worse my mind, on the slim chance it would save your girlfriend of a couple of months. Does that sound like friendship to you?"

"'Girlfriend of a couple of months' implies a lot less love than I actually had for her... but no, it doesn't sound like friendship. Which is why I said it as 'we,' instead of saying you weren't a friend to me."

Comments

[blackmare.livejournal.com]

They will never, ever have this discussion in canon. Ever.

Which is why it would be so nice if some really outstanding fic writer were to take it on. Someone who loved and respected both characters and would be fair to them instead of dumping a load of blame all over one guy while promoting the other to sainthood.

You don't know where we could find someone like that, do you?

[deelaundry.livejournal.com]

No, they won't ever have this conversation. Because then the producers would have to acknowledge the depth of the relationship, and explain what it means to each of the characters, and goodness knows two men not actively having sex aren't allowed to love each other, no.

Not that I'm bitter.

Right now in my head there's nothing more after these lines. If a fic writer such as the one you described (*cough*you*cough*) felt the desire to run with them, I'd happily offer them up.

[blackmare.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I think House has shown the potential depth of a nonsexual male relationship in a way that very few other shows have dared or bothered to do, and generally I am very pleased with them for it.

I mean -- if we think about the way House went after Wilson, the way Wilson was cornered and had to deal with House saying, you love me and you're afraid of losing me so you figured you'd leave first. And Wilson, unable to admit the truth, got mad and threw a bottle through a window. I can't think of any other show where a friendship would be treated with that much intensity (although, granted, I don't watch a whole lot of TV).

Here, if House were to ask, "Then what are we?" (and he would), I can hear Wilson pause, then: "We're ... we're friends, House. But that's a rhetorical question and you know it. We're friends who treat each other like, like ... servants, or toys, or ... something."

And that's all I've got. Back to you now. :-)

[nightdog-barks.livejournal.com]

Actually, Wilson sort of answered that question already, in one of the Amber episodes, when he said (paraphrasing) "We treat each other like crap, and keep coming back for more."

Or ... something like that. *g*

[blackmare.livejournal.com]

"We're friends who treat each other like, like ... servants, or toys, or ... something."

"I think the word you want is 'shit.' Which you are also full of."

"What? House --"

"What do you call the part where you lie to the damn cops for me, you idiot? The part where you'd have gone to jail, or the part where I did let Chase stick electrodes in my brain? How about the part where you've always got a place to stay when the reigning Mrs. Wilson kicks you to the curb? Or that thing where I've got an alibi and can say I wasn't there when my patient hanged himself?"

"That's not what I'm talking about."

"Yeah. It never is."

Er, I don't know. I'm goofing around a little. And I need to go goof around with that Crow's Nest thing I'm working on, I think. Anyone who wants to pick this up, chop it up, slice dice or julienne it -- have fun.

[deelaundry.livejournal.com]

Showing House going after Wilson was good, but they never said why. House opened up the question, "What does Wilson mean to me?" but never answered it. Then after one ep of pursuing Wilson, House stopped. Ep 5-3 had no mention of Wilson at all. Hugh Laurie mentioned House needing to do something extraordinary to win Wilson back, but House didn't do anything. He gets Wilson back in his life by chance, and then when the time came at the end of the ep for them to have an honest conversation on why they wanted to be friends... they punted. House said, "It's OK if you just like my neediness," and Wilson said, "We don't get a choice who our friends are, but it's fun to hang out with you."

: (

[blackmare.livejournal.com]

Oh, I never said I was satisfied with the way they handled these things. Just that in comparison to other friendships we see on TV, House and Wilson are so far beyond the norm even with what we are shown. I try to appreciate that rather than making myself crazy because of all the places they just zoom right past the opportunities to really explore things between those two.

[taiga13.livejournal.com]

I liked that, though. That Wilson made it clear that he was returning because he realized he did like being House's friend, that he left for the wrong reason. It meant he WANTED House, not just NEEDED him.
And oh, don't get me started on the DBS issue.